Categories Twitter Kihbernetic Tweetbits on Systems & Control Post author By py Post date February 4, 2021 No Comments on Kihbernetic Tweetbits on Systems & Control Systems Shouldn't say "distorted", maybe "imperfect" is a better choice:The #System is an imperfect #Reflection of #Reality on the surface of our #Consciousness.— The Kihbernetics Institute (@Kihbernetics) February 4, 2021 The system is always an abstraction (our experience) of the real world entity. It is a concept, like that of a "pyramid", as opposed to a real ones in Giza.— The Kihbernetics Institute (@Kihbernetics) January 31, 2021 Tough question. Didn't realize it is time sensitive😃.Don't know about the others, but for me live music is an unfolding (dynamical) structure, as there are no discernible inputs/outputs. It is the product of a system as a static (music sheet, CD) or dynamic (performance) form.— The Kihbernetics Institute (@Kihbernetics) January 31, 2021 It is the observer who selects the system by distinguishing it from everything else (the environment). The observer may *choose* to look at the behaviour of the system as a simple unity in its environment, or as a composite unity of elements with a function within the system.— The Kihbernetics Institute (@Kihbernetics) January 25, 2021 It is not just the question of the observer. HvF (as well as Ashby) were opposed to the idea that a system can truly "self-organize", that is, create order from a less ordered environment. They both thought (incorrectly IMO) that it can come only at the expense of the environment— The Kihbernetics Institute (@Kihbernetics) January 26, 2021 I think HvF's conjecture about the system in an adiabatic envelope is the culprit. The adiabatic envelope is a fiction like the "Maxwell's demon". The whole universe may be in such an envelope, but the flow of energy within it is free. Organization use just a tiny fraction of it.— The Kihbernetics Institute (@Kihbernetics) January 26, 2021 Failed to mention that #information and #knowledge are internal to the #system. Knowledge represent the #state of the system. Information is the result of interpreting the outside #data using the current #knowledge_state of the system. Wisdom is just knowledgeable behaviour. https://t.co/Bo7IifriUh pic.twitter.com/HcYijICwrv— The Kihbernetics Institute (@Kihbernetics) January 9, 2021 And not only quantitatively (as amplifier), but qualitatively as well, because as a (reinforcing) group (herd) they can come up and do with shit that no-one would think about doing as a lone individual.— The Kihbernetics Institute (@Kihbernetics) January 8, 2021 … distinguish as spontaneously or artificially being conserved in some #domain of our concern. A tornado, for example, is not an entity with definite borders, and extends only as far as the #observer chooses what must be conserved in its dynamic." #H_R_Maturana— The Kihbernetics Institute (@Kihbernetics) December 31, 2020 … "Because any real ‘ machine ‘ has an infinity of variables, from which different observers (with different aims) may reasonably make an infinity of different selections, there must first be given an observer … a #system is then defined as any set of variables that …— The Kihbernetics Institute (@Kihbernetics) December 31, 2020 … he selects from those available on the real ‘machine‘. It is thus a list, nominated by the #observer, and is quite different in nature from the real ‘machine‘. Through- out the book, ‘the system‘ will always refer to this abstraction, not to the real material ‘machine‘.— The Kihbernetics Institute (@Kihbernetics) December 31, 2020 Control *Control is of the controlled* This means that #control, like #information and #knowledge is internal to the #system. In addition, #control is only possible because the #controlled relinquished some of its #freedom by being part of the #system.— The Kihbernetics Institute (@Kihbernetics) February 4, 2021 The problem with Cybernetics is IMO the master/slave distinction it is based on: "#controller" vs. "#controlled" system, "#observer" (experimenter) vs. "#observed" system. Also, all dynamical systems (like the observer) are (per Ashby) closed to information, thus #uncontrollable https://t.co/Sp7nnbhqqI— The Kihbernetics Institute (@Kihbernetics) January 17, 2021 The #regulation level makes the foundation of your system and is comprised by all those #autonomous_agents that keep things together, like #frontlineworkers. This is the level in direct confrontation with, and protecting the system from the harsh #environment (like customers😃)— The Kihbernetics Institute (@Kihbernetics) January 3, 2021 At the #guidance or #governance level you have your standard decision boards, CEOs or similar, with only one purpose, to look at their system, see how it fits in the environment, anticipate problems, define and promote a long term strategy, values and culture of the whole system.— The Kihbernetics Institute (@Kihbernetics) January 3, 2021 Nice work! Two notes that I think might be useful to remember for models.1. #W_R_Ashby's main purpose for the model was to control the machine. See https://t.co/5E0yFue0u52. The model is built around numerical values, #variables, that can be measured on both, machine and model. https://t.co/EqhOPerKAw— The Kihbernetics Institute (@Kihbernetics) January 5, 2021 And what is even more important, because an organism is an #autopoietic system the model is preserved within the system. It is not some outside #schema or description but more of a "rule-book" or #recipe for internal use.I think I might have earned my food today. 😀— The Kihbernetics Institute (@Kihbernetics) January 5, 2021 ← Agile Scrum as a Dynamical System → Kihbernetic Tweetbits on Life & Evolution Leave a Reply Cancel replyYour email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *Comment Name * Email * Website Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment.